tinwhistle Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Hey guys, I'm not real sure if this is the place for this thread, but I'll give it a try. I just finished a history course at the local community college, titled: Vietnam; a History 1945 to Present. Attached is my final exam paper. There are a lot of Vietnam vets on this site and thought you may find this interesting. Blessed Christmas to all of you....Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsoto Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Hey guys, I'm not real sure if this is the place for this thread, but I'll give it a try. I just finished a history course at the local community college, titled: Vietnam; a History 1945 to Present. Attached is my final exam paper. There are a lot of Vietnam vets on this site and thought you may find this interesting. Blessed Christmas to all of you....Chris Chris, Great Job! I think you hit the nail on the head with your report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryRobinson Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Chris, I don't know what references you had during your class but a book that gives a good history of Vietnam and the war is "VIETNAM, A History" by Stanley Karnow, who was a winner of the Pulitzer Prize. It was a real eye opener for me and I highly recommend it for reading. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Wow, Chris. That was awesome! Like bbsoto remarked, you hit the nail on the head. I'm just thankful that today's returning vets are treated like the heros they are. Whether one is for or against our war in Afghanistan, the military is respected. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Well said, but I would like to know the grade you recieved in the class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Note to Don R the left still does not respect the military they have learned it plays better to say you do. Just look at the way they left Irock all for not they still doint care they just think were stupid enuff to believe them again:(:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt.crewchief Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Chris, Job well done!!! I will give you an "A" for your final exam. And, "Merry Christmas" to you and your family. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinwhistle Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 Good morning guys, thanks for the generous words. The text book was indeed Karnows book. I had it on my book shelf having read it some time ago. As it turned out there was a Marine Vietnam vet in the class also, the instructor is our age with two sons in the military. Between the two of us vets and his sons the instructor kept things pretty staight, despite the fact that he played his student deferment during Vietnam. Grades come out on the 19th. I'll let you know.....Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 If I'm the professor your getting an A+, no question. Well done!!! If you get anything less than an A let us know and we'll dispatch Dan Wilson to Wisconsin to kneecap your prof. This would include payback for using the student deferment. lmao!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Why no mention of the Korean War Yes War not police action. It is still on no peace treaty has been signed. Just a thought. Thought it was a fine report except for this omission. Lost a brother there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinwhistle Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share Posted December 25, 2011 Why no mention of the Korean War Yes War not police action. It is still on no peace treaty has been signed. Just a thought. Thought it was a fine report except for this omission. Lost a brother there. Dutch, certainly no disrespect meant in the omission of the Korean War. That was a calculated risk I took. The VFW and Legion halls are full of Korean War vets who deserve better than what they received. The other day I saw a bumper sticker on an old rusted pickup: "Never again will one generation of veteran forget another generation of veteran". A wake up call. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Tinwhistle, Thank you, enuff said. Merry Christmas! Dutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzferrari Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Excellent job you can be Proud of what you accomplished! Remember no one can take it from you!! Pete Fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xzoomie32065 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Great report. Left leaning politicians cut off the funding to RVN after we withdrew. They also let the draft dogers back in from Canada and gave away Okinawa and the Panama Canal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizzard Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Outstanding, Chris. I finally got it to open..................my only question is this..If ordinary people like us can see this shit, why in hell can't the countries leaders see it???? Oh, yeah their main interest is gettin' re-elected............and we dumb asses continue to send them back and elect pieces of crap like Bush, Obama, Clinton, and Carter who promise to lead us to the land of milk and honey, all the while promising stuff they cannot deliver, (like that cow Bachman sayin' she would drop the price of gasoline), when all the while most of the problem lies with those pieces of water buffalo shit in Congress who get there and stay. We served to preserve, but the average citizen has no idea what that means. I worked for the 2010 census for a while and met a guy who was a nam vet, actually worked in the airlift command group, and many of us when where he sent us, basically, and he said this 'If you never wore the uniform of this country, you are just a visitor.""" Damn few of those in DC ever did, many of those who did, have forgotten the experience. too bad they will probably never read Chris's report...............hell, they wouldn't understand it anyway... giz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizzard Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Outstanding, Chris. I finally got it to open..................my only question is this..If ordinary people like us can see this shit, why in hell can't the countries leaders see it???? Oh, yeah their main interest is gettin' re-elected............and we dumb asses continue to send them back and elect pieces of crap like Bush, Obama, Clinton, and Carter who promise to lead us to the land of milk and honey, all the while promising stuff they cannot deliver, (like that cow Bachman sayin' she would drop the price of gasoline), when all the while most of the problem lies with those pieces of water buffalo shit in Congress who get there and stay. We served to preserve, but the average citizen has no idea what that means. I worked for the 2010 census for a while and met a guy who was a nam vet, actually worked in the airlift command group, and many of us when where he sent us, basically, and he said this 'If you never wore the uniform of this country, you are just a visitor.""" Damn few of those in DC ever did, many of those who did, have forgotten the experience. too bad they will probably never read Chris's report...............hell, they wouldn't understand it anyway... giz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Chris,I enjoyed reading your report. VIETNAM Just the word stirs a multitude of emotions. Anger - over the way we were welcomed home. Confusion - about how my feelings of patriotism could be construed as nieve by other americans who chose to accept deferements or avoid the draft. Dissapointment - that the political leaders sold us out. Sadness - that I had to keep my experiences to myself lest I be labeled an idiot for volunteering to go to VN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 VIETNAM Just the word stirs a multitude of emotions. Anger - over the way we were welcomed home. Speaking of our welcome home, about a year ago I bought a baseball cap saying that I was a Vietnam Vet on it. Many times I have had people come up to me and say "Thank you for your service". I then tell all of them that when they see someone with a hat similer to mine saying that the wearer is a Vietnam Vet to not thank him for his service but to tell him "Welcome Home". After all we never got a welcome home. I all so think we should do it amoungst ourselves. So to all of the Vietnam Vets I say "WELCOME HOME". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Davidson Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Wow Dutch never thought of it that way. I was born in Sept of 68 so I was really to young to even know what all the to do about the protests and things against the military was about. My dad was TDY to Vietnam and got back 2 days before I was born, so as far as my experience with dad being gone it didnt play a factor. He wont talk about it all I know is he was just a 21 yr old kid.. I guess all you guys was kids. Brings a tear to my eye thinking how everyone was drafted to do it, and the ones that serve today volunteer not that one is better over the other. To me theres a difference between the 2 generations you guys didnt look for apreciation but sometimes i think the kids now want the recognition instead of being humble and thankful to serve the country. Maybe Im off on a rabbits trail somewhere I dunno. Just my .02. But to you who served WELCOME HOME Guys and thanks for doing what you was called to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Davidson Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 To get back to the topic. Nice job on the report Chris thumbs up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwylie Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Outstanding, Chris. I finally got it to open..................my only question is this..If ordinary people like us can see this shit, why in hell can't the countries leaders see it???? Oh, yeah their main interest is gettin' re-elected............and we dumb asses continue to send them back and elect pieces of crap like Bush, Obama, Clinton, and Carter who promise to lead us to the land of milk and honey, all the while promising stuff they cannot deliver, (like that cow Bachman sayin' she would drop the price of gasoline), when all the while most of the problem lies with those pieces of water buffalo shit in Congress who get there and stay. We served to preserve, but the average citizen has no idea what that means. I worked for the 2010 census for a while and met a guy who was a nam vet, actually worked in the airlift command group, and many of us when where he sent us, basically, and he said this 'If you never wore the uniform of this country, you are just a visitor.""" Damn few of those in DC ever did, many of those who did, have forgotten the experience. too bad they will probably never read Chris's report...............hell, they wouldn't understand it anyway... giz "Ordinary people like us" Now that's funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwylie Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Outstanding, Chris. I finally got it to open..................my only question is this..If ordinary people like us can see this shit, why in hell can't the countries leaders see it???? Oh, yeah their main interest is gettin' re-elected............and we dumb asses continue to send them back and elect pieces of crap like Bush, Obama, Clinton, and Carter who promise to lead us to the land of milk and honey, all the while promising stuff they cannot deliver, (like that cow Bachman sayin' she would drop the price of gasoline), when all the while most of the problem lies with those pieces of water buffalo shit in Congress who get there and stay. We served to preserve, but the average citizen has no idea what that means. I worked for the 2010 census for a while and met a guy who was a nam vet, actually worked in the airlift command group, and many of us when where he sent us, basically, and he said this 'If you never wore the uniform of this country, you are just a visitor.""" Damn few of those in DC ever did, many of those who did, have forgotten the experience. too bad they will probably never read Chris's report...............hell, they wouldn't understand it anyway... giz "Ordinary people like us" Now that's funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt.crewchief Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 pwylie, Obviously you DO think that's funny!! You posted it twice!!! Now that's what I call "ordinary"!! All of the guys on this forum are ORDINARY to me. Now, I'm not so sure about "normal". I have found a second home here and I chose this "home" and really enjoy being here and reading "good stuff" like Chris's post!!! Thanks for listening all of you "ordinary people", Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwylie Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 pwylie, Obviously you DO think that's funny!! You posted it twice!!! Now that's what I call "ordinary"!! All of the guys on this forum are ORDINARY to me. Now, I'm not so sure about "normal". I have found a second home here and I chose this "home" and really enjoy being here and reading "good stuff" like Chris's post!!! Thanks for listening all of you "ordinary people", Ken KEN, Was just having some fun and cutting up with Giz. Hope no one took offense. I'm with you about finding a home here and enjoy reading the post daily. Pat Wylie P.S. Great post Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizzard Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'm hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and from an old 316th guy at that................... i think I will have to go to my room............LMAO!!!!! My definition of ordinary is the normal (?) responsible, hardworkin' American, may a better term would have been EXTRA-ordinary!!!!! As they said in 'Garden of Stone.".. "here's to us and those like us and damn few of us there are.!!!!!!!! ( or somethin like that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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