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Lots of news for the past week about this. I personally believe that the invasive pat downs are a violation of the 4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The time has come to quit pussy footing around and do some intelligent profiling, both positive and negative. Positive example? Pilots. What say you?

I have a lot to say about this on my blog--I'd be honored if you would visit and subscribe to the posts.

Cheers

JP

Blog website: http://flyoverfeedback.blogspot.com

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Wonder what would happen if you showed them you like the poke and grope?

They don't like that or they just dont have an appreciation for someone trying to make a difficult situation light.

This comes from a friend who worked for TSA last summer. Her main reason for quitting the job? People are just disgusting in their personal habits and hygiene. Her second reason for quitting the job? Even though she was acting professional (and this gal also grew up a military brat, so she took that serious) it was a good portion of airline passengers that treat the people working in the airport the same way they treat fast food workers. :/

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I've heard that the Israelis interview everyone, eye to eye. They want your passport to know who you are, then ask why you're here, where you're going and why. If they're not satisfied with your answers, you're scanned, patted down or strip searched. I wouldn't have a problem with this.

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Going through security when departing Israel you are questioned seperately at length by two young Israelis. They ask the same questions differently and you had better provide same answers. On one trip the security female asked why I had traveled through Frankfort on my way to Israel. I responded, because I was a Delta frequent flyer, and at the time, Frankfort was the only Delta connection to Tel Aviv. There was a trainee standing nereby. She interupted asking the first security female, in Herbrew, what frequent flyer meant. I had to chuckle over that interchange. Sometime passing through security would take five minutes, other times not uncommon to spend 30 40 minutes answering questions, sometimes from as many as four people. The Israelis don't have a problem with profiling. If you even faintly resemble an Arab don't expect quick pass though. I watched security search an Arab grand mother, opening every Pamper and spreading every piece of her luggage on the terminal floor. Also, easy to id Arab vehicles as their number plate is a different color than an Israelis. Israel airport securiy uses profiling as a major component of thier program...and it works. Anyone remember the last incident involving an El Al acft? Ask any senior Israeli airport security person what they think of our esteemed Homeland Security program and, if they know you well, they will tell you it's stupid.

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I was hoping someone would bring up Israeli security. They are the very best. Our TSA should take lessons from them, as far as people screaming bloody hell. OH WELL!!!!! We need to remember that Freedom isn't free. My only problem with TSA is they don't know how to communicate.

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You hear a lot about Israeli security. I call it the gold standard. But look at some numbers. At Ben Gurion airport they screen about 9 million passengers a year. At Las Vegas alone, 46 million passengers. About 756 million a year in the U.S. So although they have a great system, I doubt we can replicate it, but we sure can learn. I have a new blog up TSA--Time For Some Facts. In it, more of the numbers I just quoted plus some other non PC facts. If you visit, please leave a comment, especially about my last paragraph.

http://flyoverfeedback.blogspot.com Pretty good cartoon there too.

JP

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Nope, not that guy. But on a serious note, more and more news is coming out that TSA has really backed off on the use of the full body scanners, and the pat downs have returned to a kinder, more gentler invasion of our privacy. Many blog sites are giving Matt Drudge the honor of causing the TSA to back off, but I personally feel it was the collective anger of the flying public saying, "Enough already!" My personal experience with the TSA gropers seems to support the fact that they have indeed, backed off.

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Sorry, J.P. -- just one more item to show that the TSA can be compared to the East German Stasi or the KBG. Just no loss of lives -- yet.

I got the following from a friend of mine. It's almost embarrassing to have our non-US members and guests read this, but here goes.

Don R.

Might very well have been one of our Omni DC-10's. I've said it before and I'll say it again, "TSA is out of control."

-------- Begin forwarded message --------

This from one of our heroes coming home from defending our freedom..

As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan , we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon , Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That's where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the plane -- even though the plane wasn't refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

It's probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren't loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our cargo -- just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all again that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

So we're in line, going through one at a time. One of our soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the soldier that they're going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You can't take those on the plane.

Soldier: What? I've had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: You're not suppose to have them.

Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I'm allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you can't use it to take over the plane. You don't have bullets.

Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get out of here. I'll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]

To top it off, the TSA demanded we all be swabbed for "explosive residue" detection. Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we tested positive for "Gun Powder Residue." Who the hell is hiring these people?

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols and machine guns -- but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.

Can someone please tell me -- What happened to OUR country while we were gone?

Sgt. Mad Dog Tracy

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