SEFEGeorge

From what I remember from years ago, it's 3 yrs, 7 yrs, 15 yrs, to move from basic, senior, chief aircrew member.

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APG 431X1A JC-131B, C-121C, O-2A - WP AFB - Then FM on JC-131B C-7A - CRB, RVN C-5A, B-52D/G/H, T-37, T-38 - Kelly AFB - Depot maintenance and RAM Team VC-118A, VC-131D/E, VT-29B/C/D - WP AFB - Then FM on VC-118A and then VT-29B/C/D

POLK COUNTY FLORIDA SHERIFF GRADY JUDD An illegal alien in Polk County Florida who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop on September 28, 2009 ended up 'executing' the deputy who stopped him. The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range. Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed. A state wide manhunt ensued. The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area with his gun. After he shot at them, SWAT team officers open fired and hit the guy 68 times. Now here's the kicker. Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they shot the Poor undocumented immigrant (illegal alien) 68 times. Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel: (Talk about an all-time classic answer.) 'Because that's all the bullets we had.'

The FE was out of the seat. The AC sent him to the back to see what it's like being a J-model AC. :p

How about a Bou?

I (we) always taught to never max out the tanks with JP-8. It would put more weight into the tanks and wings than was spelled out in the -1. Not sure if structurely it would make a difference but shy of any guidance from above, it's better to be safe than sorry. I seem to recall that it was addressed in the -1 somewhere. But not sure after all these years.

Back in the day, self contained starts were shown during training so the students could experience one and knew the procedure. Inverters to -1 position, GTC and ATM on. Start #3, once you saw light off, ATM off. Once on speed ATM back on and check gages and meters again. Used this procedure many time in Alaska at the radar sites. Guess many of the old procedures and techniques have gone by the way-side. Guess the days of being a true airlifter as well.

Looking good Casey. Flew all 3 of those birds while at the TG. Only things I see is too bad the hoses aren't out on the P model and for the JC-B and JHC-H how about the top of a chute nearing the catch net? Not sure if I can find a place on the wall for 3 more prints!

A young couple joined a new church and the pastor told them, "We require all new member couples to abstain from sex for one whole month." The couple agreed, but after two weeks returned to see the pastor. The wife was crying and the husband was obviously depressed. 'You are back so soon, is there a problem?' inquired the pastor. 'We did not manage to abstain from sex for the required month,' the young man replied sadly. "The first week we managed to abstain through sheer will power. The second week was terrible and as we began the third week we were powerless." The pastor asked what happened. The young man replied, "My wife reached for a can of paint and dropped it. When she bent over to pick it up, I was overcome with lust and I had my way with her right then and there. It was lustful, loud, and passionate. It lasted over an hour and when we were done we were both drenched in sweat." The pastor lowered his head and said sternly, "You understand this means you will not be welcome in our church." "We understand," said the young man, hanging his head, "We're not welcome at Home Depot either."

When I went through the C-7 school at Dyess in '70, all the C-7 APG and FM/LMs had the same initial classes, but the FMs got to enjoy learning the toilet-paper spool slip stick, combat off-loading, etc. The FM/LM did the loading and W&B.

I was LRF when Don Sweet and Linda divorced, Don married a captain (I think she was), and then Don was killed when some Arkansas redneck in a beat-up car turned in front of his motorcycle in Jacksonville, around 1981.

Be interesting to see the results of the C-17 crash investigation - 3 zeros on the flight crew and 1 LM.

http://www.adn.com/2010/07/28/1385810/c-17-crash.html

http://www.adn.com/2010/08/01/1391108/plane-crashes-in-alaska-national.html

Not sure but I met a C-17 load about 2 years ago. He was a Msgt. Don't remember his name though. He was a Herc FE in the ANG before he had to choose a new job with the loss of the Hercs. So he became a loady.

The military today released the names of the crew members killed Wednesday evening in the crash of a Boeing C-17 cargo jet at Elmendorf Air Force Base. The crew was: Maj. Michael Freyholtz, a pilot assigned to the Alaska Air National Guard's 249th Airlift Squadron. Maj. Aaron Malone, also a pilot assigned to the 249th Airlift Squadron. Capt. Jeffrey Hill, a pilot assigned to Elmendorf's 517th Airlift Squadron. M.Sgt. Thomas Cicardo, 249th Airlift Squadron loadmaster. "We come to work with immense sorrow after four of our fellow airmen lost their lives in the C-17 crash at Elmendorf AFB Wednesday," said Brig. Gen. Charles E. "Chuck" Foster, 176th Wing commander, Alaska Air National Guard. "They were more than valued Airmen: They were our teammates, friends, family members and fellow Alaskans. We mourn their loss and share the deep sadness of their families." A board of officers is investigating the accident.

Pictures from Farnborough. http://content.techrepublic.com.com/2346-12847_11-448338-1.html?tag=content;leftCol

From APRN: Four crewmen were killed Wednesday evening when a C-17 cargo plane crashed after takeoff from Elmendorf Air Force Base, according to the Air Force. Spokesmen at Elmendorf Air Force Base said this morning the names of the crew killed in Wednesday’s crash of a C-17 cargo plane might not be made public until Friday. Three of the crew were members of the Alaska Air National Guard and the other was on active duty at Elmendorf. Officials were discussing whether to continue with this weekend’s air show. No other details were given about the crew or the reason for the crash which occurred about 6:14 Wednesday night. The giant cargo plane, assigned to the 3rd Wing at Elmendorf, was training for the upcoming air show at the base, an Air Force spokesman said Wednesday night after the crash. He pointed out that there were no ejection systems on the plane. “Our deepest sympathy and sincerest condolences go out to the family and friends of those Airmen killed in this crash. Yesterday, we lost four members of our Arctic Warrior family and it’s a loss felt across our entire joint installation,†said Col. John McMullen, 3rd Wing commander in a statement released early Thursday morning. “Right now our immediate focus is on providing all possible support to the loved ones of our fallen aviators. We are also engaged in a deliberate investigative process.â€

If I remember correctly, 872 flew pretty good in the 17th. Have a few pics of her at a remote site, in my Members Album.

No idea. I don't go onto the base. Maybe someone else may have an idea.

Yeah, that was after my time at LRF. Left there in May '82. Sure was nice flying those. Had to keep a lot of students from over torquing them on T&Gs. Extra pubs added to the book bag weight but not much.

They had a bittersweet party Sunday at Kulis Air National Guard Base in Anchorage. Guard members and their families toured planes and helicopters, posed for pictures with big guns, ate huge amounts of food including hamburgers, hot dogs, cotton candy, popcorn and ice cream sundaes, visited the beer garden, listened to music. It was the annual Family Day event, kind of a mini-state fair with face painting, crazy hairdos, and games of chance and skill. But this year, it was also a big goodbye party. The Guard's 176th Wing is leaving Kulis, its home off Raspberry Road for more than 55 years, and moving across town to new quarters on Elmendorf Air Force Base. Some crews have already moved, but the bulk won't go until early 2011. Perhaps no one is sadder to see the wing move than Rich Owens, owner of the Tastee Freez franchise just up the road, at Raspberry and Jewel Lake Road. The Guard members are some of his best customers, and he's one of the base's biggest supporters. "That's part of the emotional tug," said the wing's commander, Brig. Gen. Chuck Foster, who is in charge of the move. The wing has 1,400 members and while some already work on Elmendorf, most are stationed at Kulis and many live in South Anchorage. ICE CREAM SQUADRON Tastee Freez is a neighborhood business that helps tie the base to the community, and it's a relationship no one wants to lose, Foster said. Owens figures he might see a 10-15 percent drop in business when the Air Guard leaves. "It will have a huge impact on us," he said. And it works both ways. He donates ice cream for Guard Christmas parties and dishes up ice cream sundaes during Operation Santa Claus, when the Air Guard brings toys and treats to rural villages. At Sunday's event, the Guard bought 500 sundaes, but he donated 200 more and squirted on the whipped cream. Just a couple of weeks after he bought the franchise in 1994, three friends were in a small plane crash across Cook Inlet. Two were killed, but Air Guard members from Kulis were on a training mission that became a rescue. They were able to save one friend, Ann Malone. He's been a big supporter of the Guard ever since. He even got military approval to create patches noting that Tastee Freez is the ice cream support squadron for the Alaska National Guard. He sells the patches and T-shirts and collects donations at the counter to raise money for the Guard's family programs. He hires teens from Kulis families, especially those who may need a little extra guidance. And he's state chairman of a group that works with part-time guard members and their civilian employers to deal with any problems. It's a deep association, and it won't be severed when the 176th Wing moves, both Foster and Owens said. Guard members who live in East Anchorage may need to make a special trip to Sand Lake for their burgers, onion rings and soft serve cones, the general said. 'WE'RE COMMUNITY' The Kulis base sits on 130 acres of state airport land. It's not yet settled who will move in, but the new tenants likely will include corporate airplane operations, and maybe maintenance crews, said John Parrott, manager of Stevens International Airport. Neighbors are concerned about the change, he said, but it's likely that there will be less air traffic, not more. The upheaval of the move may make some Guard members apprehensive about their future, Foster said. The 176th Wing includes longtime Guard members who have planted deep roots in Anchorage. They own houses and watch their children grow up here. They are connected in a way that Air Force and Army personnel who rotate in and out can never be, said Colleen Meredith, education and training manager for the wing. "We're community," she said. On base, they see the same familiar faces day after day. There's comfort in that. With the move, "I want to be sure no one gets lost," Foster said. Dave Looney, a full-time Guard member who works as an HH-60 helicopter pilot, said it will be an adjustment to go from Kulis, where it's all about the Guard, to Elmendorf, where the 176th will be one part of a much bigger operation. He was at Sunday's event with his wife and two young sons, who lined up for Tastee Freez sundaes. Retiree Jim Curro, who put 20 years in with the Air Guard and 25 with the Air Force, said he was sad to see the 176th Wing move. It's better strategically to have two bases, and sometimes one base is fogged in when the other isn't, he said. Most of the Guard members say they love what they do, and if they have to do it somewhere else, so be it, Foster said. Some see advantages in having easier access to Elmendorf's exercise facilities and base exchange store. Some already live in East Anchorage, Eagle River or the Valley, so will have a shorter commute. But some are worried. NEW DIGS The relocation will carry out a recommendation of the 2005 Base Closure and Realignment Commission. In the bargain, the Air Guard will get new hangars and office space. Those that have already moved say the new surroundings are terrific. There's plenty of storage, rooms for training, and even an endless pool, said rescue unit flight surgeon Mark Tuccillo. The wing was running out of room at Kulis, Foster said. "We have as many airplanes as we can fit on our ramp space," Foster said. Eight C-130s that haul cargo. Four HC-130s used in rescues. Six HH-60 rescue helicopters. Once at Elmendorf, they'll be getting four more C-130s. The 176th also operates C-17s jointly with the Air Force, and Foster hopes more opportunities like that arise. As to the physical move itself, it will be a lot of work but should go smoothly, Foster said. "That's what we do for a living. We move stuff around the world." The bulk of the move should be in mid-January. "What we hope to do -- and I hope the weather cooperates -- is start up all the airplanes and stand here and wave goodbye," the general said. Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/07/19/1372671/anchorage-guard-wing-throws-last.html#ixzz0u9V6KxIx

LRF, school sqd, '81-'82 timeframe, 10 hour nav OW - 42,500' on the way back to LRF after nav training had finished. At least the co-pilot had his helment and O2 on, per the regs. Cabin alt, hmmmmm, ah, 10,000'. Can't remember the tail number but it probably was one of the '73 H models.

I've got one of them in color. Pretty nice. Not sure where I "found" it many years ago.