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Herk nose gear pin?

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Got this from Jerry Mitchell.

Can anyone identify it?

"I recently picked up (at the flea market) a five/sixteenth inch push (ball) pin with attached remove before flight flag (full size) with the following no. on it NAS 1396-20 and MFR 0904 also hand engraved on the side of the Handel G 601 R 101103-1 . I live fairly close to Warner Robins so I would think it came from there. I would think that someone on the site would know what its off of? I'm looking for some help here to solve the mystery"

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Bob

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Those pins are used a lot of different aircraft. It could be a nose gear pin. They are also used for safety devices on weapon systems, even chaff/flare safeties. Both part numbers are standard stuff that most units have on bench stock.

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That sure dosen't look like the Herk. N/G ground lock pin I remember! That type of pin of varying diameter is used on most aircraft in many places.

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Anyone remember the big wedge-shaped NLG downlock? As a one-striper on my first TDY by myself, I really got my butt chewed out by the FE, Msgt Marchman over it.

Don R.

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Ok every one thanks for the help in solving this with that said what is emi filter and what does the hand engraved no. on the side of the handel mean ,remember im a lody not a crew chief and im still wondering about this please explane.

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The handle numbers mean nothing really unless it is a mil spec. EMI filter pin is a safety pin located in cargo compartment of the slick C-130 at FS245 (one) and at around FSlt side wall of the AC. The are used to safe the ALE47 Chaff Flare system.

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Thanks for explaning what EMI filter pin was in my day (61/62 model Es) we did not have ALE47 Chaff Flare system I was worried about my memorey

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Anyone remember the big wedge-shaped NLG downlock? As a one-striper on my first TDY by myself, I really got my butt chewed out by the FE, Msgt Marchman over it.

Don R.

Been there done that. The old NLG down lock device weighed as much as an anvil! Anyone out there have a picture of that old clunker? Bill

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You would think that all aircraft NLG – Nose Landing Gear lockout pins would be the same so that the CFR - Crash Fire Rescue team member who is supposed to pin it during an emergency wouldn’t have to carry a selection of pins. Or maybe there a pin available in the wheel-well?

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Anyone remember the big wedge-shaped NLG downlock? As a one-striper on my first TDY by myself, I really got my butt chewed out by the FE, Msgt Marchman over it.

Don R.

Remember it well. I can't id. subject pin but if it had been the big wedge-shaped downlock would have no problem iding it.

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Oh yea. Remember it well. Must have weighted six/seven pounds.

Bill, I'm amazed you were able to find the photo. As I recall the TCTO that incorporated the pip pin downlock was accomplished about the mid 60s. Good job.

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Spectre623

Am I glad you found and posted this pic of the old Nose Gear Pin! I was pretty sure that the one that started this thread was not the pin I pulled. Memory being what it is, though, I couldn't be sure. Thanks for the pic!!!!!!

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Has any of you came close to forgetting the nose gear pin in. I have to say I have once in Vietnam. Just after engine run check before take off I seen the pin on the back of the pilot seat. I told the pilot and got out and removed the pin. the tower called and wanted to know what we were doing the pilot told them we were checking a tire. I had ben flying with the pilot a long time and it didn't seem to bother him but it sure bother me.

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Has any of you came close to forgetting the nose gear pin in.

Yep, Dyess AFB, TX, 1973. I was a brand new FE on one of my first rides without an instructor. Blocking out on a training mission, the crew chief marshalled us out of parking and saluted with the pin in his hand! He got a well-deserved case of beer.

Don R.

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I always ask the Engineer before/during engine start if he's got the nose gear pin. The first couple times they get irritated. But I explain that I'm backing him up, not giving him crap. There are those that have and those that will.

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I must say that I never forgot the nose pin. My Phase I instructor taught me to put the pin in the back of the co-pilot's seat and grab the streamer when the Before Starting Engines checklist was called. I also put a note at the top of the checklist page that just said GEAR PIN.

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I must say that I never forgot the nose pin. My Phase I instructor taught me to put the pin in the back of the co-pilot's seat and grab the streamer when the Before Starting Engines checklist was called. I also put a note at the top of the checklist page that just said GEAR PIN.

I have a note in my checklist too, and I reach over to touch the pin before I call it complete. Even after doing this sometimes I hold my breath when the gear lever goes up.

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