CGRetired Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Anybody ever hear of a crew entrance door "falling off"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorp1 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I have seen two photos and heard a lot of scuttle butt. No "official" information as of yet. Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxFE Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) We (the 815th @ Keesler) had one comeoff in the late 80's or early 90's. I was new at the time. I heard that there was a door open light sometime after takeoff. Someone saw the door handle was in-between locked and open. The engineer decided to try to move it to locked. He said when he touched it, in an instant the handle slammed to open and the door blew off. He said he thought he was gonna get sucked out the plane even with the harness on. Edited May 7, 2009 by WxFE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ang012 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I think it was the Delaware air guard lost one in flight back in the late 90's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Worn and sloppy linkage, not letting the latches to engage propely. How old is this acft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCFH Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I know we never flew with one but of course that was by design :cool:. What a rush that must have been to see the door fly off in front off you. I would really need some new nomex after that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGRetired Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yep, that's the one. Thanks for pics Vic, those are the same ones I've seen. The scuttlebutt is the same story, almost exactly as WxFE stated... Can't wait to hear "the REST of the story"! Those boys were LUCKY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I have old timers. Did the scanner killed at Sewart back in the 60's fall out the forward cargo door, my guess, or the crew entrance door? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 It was a FWD Cargo door. I beleave the man that died was FMS Troop, HYD. Man and another man grabed a chain an was pulled back In. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarrett Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Did they add 10 to the drag for crew entrance door removed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donwon Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I was at Sewart at the time and I think he was a2c Back. The plane went to Pope and was on it,s way back to Sewart when it happened. Something makes me want to call him Baca. They put a piece of metal over the locks so they couldn't be disengaged. It was the fwd cargo door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 3 may 1964, 61-0961 A2C Gary D. Back Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) No Donwon it was not Baca, aka Chief. Like Bob said, it was Gary Back . Word was, he and Martinez, an eng. troop were chaining their tool boxes down at 245 when the fwd. cargo door blew. Back went out and Martinez, only part way out hung onto the chain and was pulled back in. I heard "The rest of the story", as to why it blew open, in 1990 from the Lockheed engineer who investigated the failure. Bill Edited May 22, 2009 by Spectre623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev130eng Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 LMAS SB-729 issued on 03-06 1999 was introduced to inspect the upper torque tubes for incorrectly drilled holes causing an interference between 357669/373901 link and 339613 lug attaching hardware installed on the 373900/339135 upper torque tube assembly on some aircraft. This interference occoured due to holes being drilled at incorrect locations in the 339613 lug. "Quote" A properly locked crew door will not open in flight. The crew door should be latched and locked in accordance with the applicable Hercules Maintenance Manual. If the master door warning light is off then i think the rigging is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I think it was the Delaware air guard lost one in flight back in the late 90's Yes. It was down at Tactics School. I wasn't there but have heard several versions of the story from people that were. I think they ended up finding the door, patching it up a little and put it back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steffenhymel Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The aircraft in the pictures is a Coast Guard aircraft in Kodiak Alaska, we got word here in Elizabeth City about it and ALC was investingating the cause, As far as I know they still dont have any idea what caused it, my theory is some one reached up and pulled the jettison handle......I know I have done it on the ground before (my bad) If I get anymore info I'll post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1dp Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The view out the door opening sure looked liked Alaska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZHill Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 If the jettison handle were pulled the lower hinge pins would have been out , this looks like the door wasn't fully latched. RZ Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawson Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 There was some one who fell out the forward cargo back in the early sixties (62-63), but I thought they were able to pull him back in. How, I can't imagine. After that all the forward cargo doors were chained closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bischoffm Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 See they do clear the props when they come off. So it must be safe to jump out of too!! !!!!!Geronimo!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfisher Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 When i did a preflight i grabed the door and shook the heck out of it both side ways and in and out. you would be surprised how doors many i found lose on the hinges. They would call out the people that worked on the doors. when they came out they never semmed very happy it would take them quiteawile to get them adjusted right or replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 That the Areo repair shop Charlie, Boy I bet those guys loved you. That an all day job. R&R the bushings and Shims rehang the door then adjust the latches. I worked in the A/R Shop when I entered the services. That why I say this door had worn an sloppy linkage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Was on Herks 30 years and also installed and rigged them at Lockheed so... my thoughts on the FE lifting the crew door up about waist high and shaking it, is as about as good a check as walking by the tire and kicking it to check the air pressure. But hey... I'm retired now so , it may have changed...ha ha. NOTE:P.S. I just relooked at the pic a little closer and I see the retract pin on the telescoping rod is not retracted(if jettisoned) but bent, and the lower hinges are still on the acft and the door handle is in the locked position. It tells me the door wasn't jettisoned but looks like the "J" hooks were possibly out of adjustment. Would like to have seen how it was patched up as a prior post surmised and reinstalled. Vedy Inte-resting...as a certain inspector would say.... Edited May 26, 2009 by Spectre623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcansaw Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I have seen two photos and heard a lot of scuttle butt. No "official" information as of yet. Vic This is cg tail #1704 from Kodiak, ak. On climb out at about 3000feet the engeineer saw the door open light and straped in to check it out. The handle was in the half closed position and as soon as he touched it there went the door. It did no damage to the aircraft exterior. Im stationed up here and it was sketchy but no one was hurt and the birds back flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in WV Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Deleware did lose a crew door at tactics school in AZ. I saw the bird parked on the ramp out there with plastic taped over the door opening. We had a crew out there when it happened IIRC. The story I was told was the FE went to check a door wrning light and when he got to the door it dropped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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